On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Dr. Lisa Earle wrote:
My dear Joann:
Such a surprise to hear from you -it brings back so many memories...
Thanks for letting me know about this Big Event (100 years of Ft.Lauderdale and its pioneers") . How touching that you asked me to add Simon to your list of honorees and that so many remember this outstanding, wonderful man. You certainly have my complete backing! It would be so right and proper to include Simon Ruden, my late husband and the Founder of the law firm (Ruden McClosky et al) in your program. He was a magnificent person, a true "Mensch", as we call a very special, compassionate, caring Human Being in Yiddish, and helped shaping and building his city by being a trustworthy, brilliant Counselor for many. He was taken from our planet much too early and his spirit still lives on in so many hearts and minds;, as you mentioned in your note.
Unfortunately, I am presently dealing with multiple, medical problems, caused by an unfortunate fall after celebrating my 90th birthday last year and won't be able to attend the so worthy celebration , honoring our Pioneers! My thoughts, my heart and my spirit however will be right there with you all!
Please, let me know, if you received this message and DO keep in touch.
Love to you, to your husband and your dear ones!
Dr. Lisa Ruden-Earle
Thursday, September 22, 2011
Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Thought of the Day
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Dr. Lisa Earle wrote:
- Aristotle
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
- Aristotle
Monday, August 22, 2011
2011/8/21 Dr. Lisa Earle wrote:
----- Original Message -----
INTERESTING CONVERSATION
An Atheist Professor of Philosophy was speaking to his Class on the Problem Science has
with GOD, the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of his New Students to stand and . . .
Professor : You Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent )
Professor : You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, Young Fella. Is GOD Good?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : From . . . GOD . . .
Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this World?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer)
Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?
(Student had no answer)
Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you. Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes, Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn't.
(The Lecture Theatre became very quiet with this turn of events )
Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat, a Little Heat or No Heat.
But we don't have anything called Cold. We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that.
There is no such thing as Cold. Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat. We cannot Measure Cold.
Heat is Energy. Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.
(There was Pin-Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )
Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the Absence of Something. You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light . . .
But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and its called Darkness, isn't it? In reality, Darkness isn't. If it is, where you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality.
You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD. You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure.
Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought. It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.
To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing.
Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved from a Monkey?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument was going )
Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and Cannot even prove that this Process is an
On-Going Endeavor. Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?
Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?
(The Class was in Uproar )
Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen the Professor's Brain?
(The Class broke out into Laughter )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's Brain, Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . . .
No one appears to have done so. So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that You have No Brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?
(The Room was Silent. The Professor stared at the Student, his face unfathomable)
Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student : That is it sir . . . Exactly ! The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that Keeps Things Alive and Moving.
NB:
I believe you have enjoyed the Conversation . . . and if so .. .
You'll probably want your Friends / Colleagues to enjoy the same . . . won't you?
Forward them to Increase their Knowledge . . . or FAITH.
That student was Albert Einstein
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On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Dave R wrote:
The thing is, of course, that Science does not operate from faith, nor does it accept faith as a valid argument in support of a proposed theory or solution. On the flip side, Faith does not require science.
I continue to be mystified by this ridiculous desire to reconcile the two. It is unnecessary, and utterly contrary to the root concept of each.
(and btw, there is no such thing as a satan - and Einstein would have known this :).
---D.
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On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Dr. Lisa Earle wrote:
Personally, I consider lots of the Bible happenings and personalities symbolically, standing for ideas rather than actual facts and realities...so Faith, I guess, takes over, in my case...May be Einstein, while still a Student in this story, had similar thoughts!
I know, you are probably more on the side of a Scientist...
No matter where you stand, I love you anyway and always! You are quite an original thinker!
As for me, I have to borrow other thinker's ideas and then work through them, I hate to confess...(not very original).
MOM
(Hugs!)
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On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Dave R wrote:
I see the bible also as symbolic, whose intent is to help us learn how to live as good human beings.
And still I don't see this as something where I have to be on 'one side' or 'the other' of Science .vs. Faith. Of course, I can see conflict between the two should they be brought into comparison with each other. But that would be like comparing a Buick to Psychiatry - how much sense does that make, they're totally different things.
As for me in such an invalid comparison, Science takes over - but that is only because by making the comparison, qualities of Science are being attributed to Faith. And Faith can't win that contest (because it's not supposed to). - Science certainly isn't going to take on attributes of Faith.
The two coexist easily (for me at least). As long as Faith-cosmology is accepted as intended to be symbolic, as you say, and we hold a sufficiently abstract conception of what God is, there is no conflict :).
And if I remember correctly, Einstein was a rather spiritual man - even late in his life.
He apparently found that these two un-comparable concepts can coexist. :)
Love you!
---Dave.
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On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Dr. Lisa Earle wrote:
Well said!
LOL, MOM
----- Original Message -----
INTERESTING CONVERSATION
An Atheist Professor of Philosophy was speaking to his Class on the Problem Science has
with GOD, the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of his New Students to stand and . . .
Professor : You Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent )
Professor : You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, Young Fella. Is GOD Good?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : From . . . GOD . . .
Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this World?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer)
Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?
(Student had no answer)
Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you. Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes, Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn't.
(The Lecture Theatre became very quiet with this turn of events )
Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat, a Little Heat or No Heat.
But we don't have anything called Cold. We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that.
There is no such thing as Cold. Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat. We cannot Measure Cold.
Heat is Energy. Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.
(There was Pin-Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )
Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the Absence of Something. You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light . . .
But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and its called Darkness, isn't it? In reality, Darkness isn't. If it is, where you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality.
You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD. You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure.
Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought. It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.
To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing.
Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved from a Monkey?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument was going )
Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and Cannot even prove that this Process is an
On-Going Endeavor. Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?
Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?
(The Class was in Uproar )
Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen the Professor's Brain?
(The Class broke out into Laughter )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's Brain, Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . . .
No one appears to have done so. So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that You have No Brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?
(The Room was Silent. The Professor stared at the Student, his face unfathomable)
Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student : That is it sir . . . Exactly ! The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that Keeps Things Alive and Moving.
NB:
I believe you have enjoyed the Conversation . . . and if so .. .
You'll probably want your Friends / Colleagues to enjoy the same . . . won't you?
Forward them to Increase their Knowledge . . . or FAITH.
That student was Albert Einstein
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On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Dave R wrote:
The thing is, of course, that Science does not operate from faith, nor does it accept faith as a valid argument in support of a proposed theory or solution. On the flip side, Faith does not require science.
I continue to be mystified by this ridiculous desire to reconcile the two. It is unnecessary, and utterly contrary to the root concept of each.
(and btw, there is no such thing as a satan - and Einstein would have known this :).
---D.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Dr. Lisa Earle wrote:
Personally, I consider lots of the Bible happenings and personalities symbolically, standing for ideas rather than actual facts and realities...so Faith, I guess, takes over, in my case...May be Einstein, while still a Student in this story, had similar thoughts!
I know, you are probably more on the side of a Scientist...
No matter where you stand, I love you anyway and always! You are quite an original thinker!
As for me, I have to borrow other thinker's ideas and then work through them, I hate to confess...(not very original).
MOM
(Hugs!)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Dave R wrote:
I see the bible also as symbolic, whose intent is to help us learn how to live as good human beings.
And still I don't see this as something where I have to be on 'one side' or 'the other' of Science .vs. Faith. Of course, I can see conflict between the two should they be brought into comparison with each other. But that would be like comparing a Buick to Psychiatry - how much sense does that make, they're totally different things.
As for me in such an invalid comparison, Science takes over - but that is only because by making the comparison, qualities of Science are being attributed to Faith. And Faith can't win that contest (because it's not supposed to). - Science certainly isn't going to take on attributes of Faith.
The two coexist easily (for me at least). As long as Faith-cosmology is accepted as intended to be symbolic, as you say, and we hold a sufficiently abstract conception of what God is, there is no conflict :).
And if I remember correctly, Einstein was a rather spiritual man - even late in his life.
He apparently found that these two un-comparable concepts can coexist. :)
Love you!
---Dave.
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On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Dr. Lisa Earle wrote:
Well said!
LOL, MOM
Tuesday, July 5, 2011
Tuesday, June 28, 2011
On God
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Dr. Lisa Earle wrote:
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THOUGHT OF THE DAY:
"God has no religion." - Mahatma Gandhi
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THOUGHT OF THE DAY:
"God has no religion." - Mahatma Gandhi
Thursday, June 23, 2011
Praying at the Western Wall
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Julie Ruden wrote:
J xoxoxoxoxo
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A female CNN journalist heard about a very old Jewish man who had been going to the Western Wall to pray, twice a day, every day, for a long, long time.
So she went to check it out. She went to the Western Wall and there he was, walking slowly up to the holy site.
She watched him pray and after about 45 minutes, when he turned to leave, using a cane and moving very slowly, she approached him for an interview.
"Pardon me, sir, I'm Rebecca Smith from CNN. What's your name?
"Morris Feinberg," he replied.
"Sir, how long have you been coming to the Western Wall and praying?"
"For about 60 years."
"60 years! That's amazing! What do you pray for?"
"I pray for peace between the Christians, Jews and the Muslims."
"I pray for all the wars and all the hatred to stop."
"I pray for all our children to grow up safely as responsible adults, and to love their fellow man."
"How do you feel after doing this for 60 years?"
"Like I'm talking to a fucking wall."
J xoxoxoxoxo
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A female CNN journalist heard about a very old Jewish man who had been going to the Western Wall to pray, twice a day, every day, for a long, long time.
So she went to check it out. She went to the Western Wall and there he was, walking slowly up to the holy site.
She watched him pray and after about 45 minutes, when he turned to leave, using a cane and moving very slowly, she approached him for an interview.
"Pardon me, sir, I'm Rebecca Smith from CNN. What's your name?
"Morris Feinberg," he replied.
"Sir, how long have you been coming to the Western Wall and praying?"
"For about 60 years."
"60 years! That's amazing! What do you pray for?"
"I pray for peace between the Christians, Jews and the Muslims."
"I pray for all the wars and all the hatred to stop."
"I pray for all our children to grow up safely as responsible adults, and to love their fellow man."
"How do you feel after doing this for 60 years?"
"Like I'm talking to a fucking wall."
Wednesday, June 22, 2011
Thought Of The Day - Nietzsche
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Dr. Lisa Earle wote:
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THOUGHT OF THE DAY:
"You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist." - Friedrich Nietzsche
...Philosophy 101?
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THOUGHT OF THE DAY:
"You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist." - Friedrich Nietzsche
...Philosophy 101?
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